Tuesday, May 11, 2010

Nationals, Inc. ‘True Beauty’ Pageants: Miss Teen Wilmington - An Exposé

It starts with a letter in the mail. Unsolicited. This should be your first clue that all is not as it seems with the Miss Teen (Insert Whatever Town They're Preying On Here) Pageant. Or, as of the publication of this blog they have renamed all their info sites to Pageantry With Purpose| Miss Teen Cities Of America. HAHAHA. But anyhow, it’s not local. In fact, National’s Inc, the company that manages these pageants are all over the country. The letter is probably from Anna Klejnowski, a ‘pageant coordinator. Who is this woman and how is she qualified to run these pageants? Also, where did she get the time-turner since she is, according to her calendar of events for all of her 'local' pageants, capable of being in many places at the same time? Funny thing is, ‘different’ people have been known to play the role of Anna, and there is speculation that she doesn’t even exist. It would certainly explain how she can be the 'local' coordinator for pageants all over the country. Especially since she mails all of her letters from Hermitage, Pennsylvania.

The contest domain - http://wilmingtonpageant.com - is ‘private’. That is something that doesn’t point to a reputable organization. After all, a business domain is normally public. And make no bones about it, this is a business. This is not a community service. This is not a non-profit.

According to the Nationals Inc, website , the ‘mission’ of these pageants is to raise self esteem, to teach the girls poise. It’s not about their ‘looks’, and there is no talent competition. There is a formal wear division, but that’s just because the girls like dressing up. You aren’t expected to pay any money, you just need to go out and get some ‘sponsors’. Sounds okay, right? I mean, it sure doesn’t SOUND like those little girl pageants that JonBenet Ramsey shed light on with her untimely murder.

So what’s the deal with these things?

Putting aside all the issues I have with pageants for children in general, the major red flags regarding this pageant are the following:


Money, Money, Money

In the letter, it states:  


The Miss Teen Wilmington Pageant  is sponsored through different businesses and organizations in Greater Wilmington and surrounding areas.

Of course,  none of these businesses are listed in the letter.  The “local sponsors” are businesses you and your child have to go out and seek in order to raise the $495 fee they charge you to be in this ridiculous thing. But it doesn't stop there.  The $495 for your child to attend isn’t where the money stops. They frequently charge between $15-20 a person to go and be in the audience. So this means if you invite your friends and family, they’ll each have to pay their way in.

So what DO you get for your $495?  Not much, unless you raise additional funds through paid ads in their 'Program Books'.  Heck, you don't even get entrance into all of the competitions, like Miss. Photogenic.  Entering that one will run you another $125.00

So, is the pageant in general was worth the $495?  This former judge doesn't think so. 

From the Judge: (Contact information on file and available to media on request with written confidentiality agreement.).
The pageant was a cattle call that cumulated in a 4 hour production with no intermission. As a judge who took the time (and money) to provide nice prizes to the winners, I didn't have the opportunity to give them to the girls. It was really annoying.  The staff was very small and they travel to do this pageant each weekend in a different city. It's a boxed pageant - meaning the same thing over and over again and they don't get to know or prepare their girls for the next level. You're not cared about, you're just a number and a fee.
 All pageants are businesses, but this one is just all about the money. The judges were treated horribly and told exactly how to score.

We want you to pay us money  because you're special, like a unique snowflake!  Your naive parent inner beauty is what we're looking for!

When you get the letter saying that your daughter has been 'selected' to participate in this pageant, you might think that she was lucky to get chosen.  You'd be thinking wrong.   Everyone who registers to attend the information session gets 'picked.' Even those that didn’t go. I called the pageant with a sob story about not being able to make the information session, but that my daughter, Wilfina (Wolfie) already has the money and she would love to be in it. And they LET ME REGISTER. (I should mention that Wolfie is my 2 yr old Pomeranian. In their defense, he WOULD look pretty cute in a tiara.)



There is something very important to understand when considering ways in which to satisfy your child's taste for show business and not get sucked into things that do nothing but waste your time and money:

Reputable Agents or Pageant Productions don't send out mass mailings. 
People are practically beating down their doors to get in.  They have waiting lists that are typically MONTHS long, and that's just for an appointment.

Good Advice from the Crimes of Persuasion Website.

  1. Beware of any newspaper classified or display ad looking for any kind of model or talent. Modeling agencies have plenty of hopefuls coming to them so they don't have to advertise for models.
  2. To avoid being ripped off, aspiring models should look for and attend “open calls”at reputable modeling agencies. Well-known agencies in large cities usually have open calls on a weekly basis.
  3. Do not respond to subway, bus or classified ads that promise modeling and acting jobs to people with no experience, or of all ages and sizes, etc.
  4. If an agency has to charge money up front it usually means they do not have enough modeling work for either the agency or the model to survive on.
  5. You should be free to go to any photographer you want to. Legitimate agencies will provide you with a list of photographers that you could go to.

They also don't need to charge fees.  They actually have the connections and resources to provide the exposure Nationals, Inc. makes claim to.


Is there an entry fee to compete in the Miss America system?
No, there is not an entry fee to compete in the Miss America system.

How about Miss Delaware or Miss USA? 

You absolutely have to pay fees for this, but they don't attempt to hide behind non-profit status.  In fact, they're fairly open about their commercial affiliations.  They're a business and they say they're a business.  Also, if you win this thing?  Well, they're offering a heck of a prize package.  

These Nationals, Inc. pageants describe themselves as a stepping stone to the Miss American and Miss USA programs, but they are unaffiliated. Not that that would better my opinion of them, but at least those pageants are up front about the stupid crap they do.

Just for fun, lets do the the math so far...
  • $495 Pageant fee
  • $125 Miss photogenic
  • $100 formal gown
  • $100 business attire, formal shoes, etc.
  • $40 mom and dad’s ticket to the pageant


TOTAL = $860
See how that works?

EXPOSURE!  (Or, really, lack thereof)


Think you'll get to hang with important folks in the modeling industry?  Maybe meet a fashion phtographer who sees that 'spark' in you?

Fat chance.  The judges for these things are often provided by vendors– that’s right, once you pay your way in you’ll be bombarded with pamphlets about photo packages, modeling schools, formal dress boutiques, etc. They offer paid booths to these various vendors so they can solicit you, and 'extras' to the ones who can offer up unqualified judges.   Oh, and if the 'Vendors' are sex offending photographers trying to set up appointments with your child that isn't something they're responsible for, just so you know.

To add insult to injury, some of the judges are just staff filling in to look the part.  In fact, some of them have been caught working the registration desks. That’s called conflict of interest, people.

And you would think they could do better (@$495 a pop!) at getting a least one or two experienced judges:

If u look at the brochure for the pageant, the girls who had the large number of sponsors ended up in the top 10. 2 of the pageant contestants were sponsored by two of the judges businesses they own?


WINNINGS! (Um...Maybe?)

Well, the winner of the local pageant gets a trip to Orlando, right?  Right?  Yep. She sure does.  The girl's  trip is all-expense paid 5 nights, but what about you? They fail to tell you that part. The CHAPERONE is responsible for their own hotel, airfare, etc. AND she must have an adult chaperone to attend. They make it seem like the parent is automatically included.

So free vacay?  Not really.

Add about another $1,000 to your tab if she get's picked to attend this thing in Orlando.


And the pressure to keep going once you've registered is pretty intense. I mean, you’ve likely already sent out a nifty letter to your local press about your child being ‘selected’ like they recommend you do, so you’re invested in her winning at this point.

So, there's something else, right?  Scholarship money? 

In a feeble rebuttal to this expose, they wrote on their FB page:

One of the highlights of our prizes is the opportunity to have the winners represent their particular city at the National COA competition that takes place in Orlando, Florida. Those participating at this level compete for over $60,000.00 in prizes including $40,000.00 in cash scholarships.
Do you get money at the local level?  Who knows.  They certainly don't seem to be advertising that for Delaware, at least.  Maybe you'll need to pay that trip to Orlando to be eligible for that.

And, after contacting the BBB (Better Business Bureau) there is a string of contestants who won Nationals, Inc. competitions who NEVER RECEIVED A DIME of their ‘scholarship’ money over the last 36 months, or only resolved the issue after having filed a complaint. They are indeed a BUSINESS, and not a BBB accredited one. These pageant companies are profit making companies. I f they gave away a lot in prizes, they wouldn't make any money. It costs them to put on the pageant and stage the 'free' information sessions and send off all the mailings. After these costs and their profit, how much do you really think is available for prizes?

But what about the ‘modeling contract’ ?  It's with John Casablanca. They essentially get people to pay to take their classes, have them sign a contract, and then likely you never hear from them again. One of the complaints filed was that even if you 'won' this contract, you were expected to enroll in a 22 month program,
one night a week, with a tuition cost of $2,500, before you'd be qualified to be sent out on jobs. Some prize, huh?

Enlightening Stuff here about how Casablanca treats their models: : (From easybackgroundchecks)
 Thus John Casablancas of Elite was quoted referring to rates lower than 20% as follows: "Everybody does it. But there is no point doing it unless it is secret. When we started we had telephones and nothing else. It was spooky. A few of the top girls got a . . . discount." (emphasis added) This kind of covert variation from a standard price is flatly contrary to what one would expect in a competitive market – and exactly consistent with the existence of an industry-wide agreement on prices that individual defendants might opportunistically violate to keep a particularly lucrative account.

And what about Anna Klejnowski

Last year at this time,after receiving an unsolicited letter, my wife and I took our 12 y/o daughter to the same venue you will be attending tomorrow. At that time a Mrs Anna Klejnowski gave the presentation. She was in her 40's, a self proclaimed pageant veteran (in my opinion she didn't have the looks) with years of wins. She also stated that she was a child psychology major and a volunteer who worked with drug addicted teens with AIDS. It was a real tear jerker. There was also a heartwarming story about her grandmother wave from her porch wearing her banner.

Well, if you thought the judges were iffy, AT LEAST, they're real people:

This year we received another letter and out of curiosity  we responded, so tonight, a year later in Gainesville a different Mrs Anna Klejnowski gave the same presentation. This time she was an attractive 26 year old blond who was the reigning Miss Colorado (no confirmation of this on the internet anywhere) and she was a full time psychology student and a volunteer who worked with troubled teen girls. Coincidentally she shared the same grandmother story with the woman of the previous year. Are you starting to see something fishy here?

And when I pull the company file, there is no Anna Klejnowski listed.   So either Anna is really generous of her time or I think we should maybe write her off as a make believe front woman.   I guess it makes sense.  But why a fake?  Well lets, take a look at who is really behind Nationals, Inc. 

Nationals, Inc is a private company categorized under Consultants-Business (Unclassified) and located in Hermitage, PA. Current estimates show this company has an annual revenue of $720,000 and employs a staff of approximately 10. 

HQ, Branch or Single Location 
Single Location   (Wow, so when you said you had to contact 'Corporate where were you, out to lunch somewhere?) 



 Annual Sales (Estimated)
720,000 

Employees (Estimated) 
 10     (TEN PEOPLE!)

So who owns this?  A guy by the name of  Joseph Yourchisin.  A businessman.

Who also owns these:
Northeast Medical Consulting Inc Test Development and Evaluation Service in Hermitage, PA
American Alternative Technolog Environmental Consultant in Hermitage, PA
Clean World Inc Environmental Consultant in Hermitage, PA
Wpi Wallace & Pancher Inc Environmental Consultant in Hermitage, PA
On Line Consulting Systems Engineering Consultant, Ex. Computer or Professional in Hermitage, PA

Probably not as enticing to get a mass mailing from some dude named Joe in Pa who wants you to dish out five hundred bucks to get dressed up and romp around on stage for people that only want to sell you things.  Not as enticing, but a heck of a lot closer to the truth.

This is the part where I say....  RUN!  RUN LIKE THE WIND!

This company, like many others, preys on little girls with stage dreams. They take advantage of parents wanting to support their children in this, and they should be treated like the predators they are. I urge legitimate businesses to steer clear of these people and parents to contact your local Attorney Generals office if you've already given them money thinking they were a non-profit.

I'm making fairly simple statements in this post.  It wouldn't be all that difficult to rebut if it was the truth.  But it isn't.  So I won't hold my breath.


Agents who work reputably within the industry charge you either very little (35$ one time fee to assist in overhead) or nothing. They only get paid when you do. NO LEGITIMATE AGENCY will contact you out of the blue. Unless you're already famous in some way, the chance of that happening is pretty much nil.

FYI, this expose was prompted by these people making an attempt to scam my Goddaughter. And just so you know, Hell Hath No Fury like a Fairy Godmother who is more than willing to stick her magic wand up the a-- of scammers that attempt to mess with her babies.

LOLLY





19 comments:

Rupinder said...

These models are just what the name suggests: ordinary looking people to represent someone the average consumer can identify with in their ads.





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Loretta Dion said...

I'm certainly not condemning the models, but lets be honest here. 'Normal' looking commercial models can register with a real, local, talent agency for a tiny fee with no strings attached other than a certain percentage of their bookings going to their agent. They don't need professional headshots to do this, either, and they certainly don't need to win an overpriced pageant with no legitimate connections to the industry.

My beef is that this pageant bills itself as one thing, not being upfront about who and what they really are - an overpriced vanity pageant(see vanity press) and the people who participate are under the impression that they are actually competing for something.

Competing with what, I have no clue.

It's deceptive, and I'm just calling them on their BS.

MS. J said...

We are also victims of this "pageant". It all started with a letter in the mail... Then we went to the meeting by "invitation only". We were all told there was no cost to us! We were also told the story about Anna being a Psych Major and working with troubled teens. Anyway the nightmare started after we got the acceptance phone call!!! We were told we had to go out and get $495.00 for her to be in the pageant??? Um Solicit money from businesses and Organizations?? This Should have been my first clue... To be in the photogenic we would have to pay an additional $125.00... They said this 495.00 would cover modeling training provided by them but the only training my daughter got was from another contestants mother!!! They had one lady there teaching more than 100 girls and it was at the end of the session!!! The first 2hrs went towards them selling expensive pictures and Cds of your child... And we didnt understand why a competition for Flint was to be held in Saginaw???? And Saginaw girls were competing for a Flint Title???? They said this competition would build self confidence in these girls but many many left there in tears and were distraught yesterday... My daughter is only ten and she didnt even understand why she didnt get a trophy??? I mean she worked really hard, and did a excellent job on stage, she is beautiful and very intelligent and talented (she was even better than some that were picked as semifinalists) And Now she is deeply depressed!!! And she feels the need to apologize to her sponsors!!! All she and most girls walked away with were certificates of participation!!! After all that money!!!! And we had to pay additional 20.00 per person for tickets!!! By the time i realized this was a "PROFIT ONLY" Business we were already in way over our heads... For all the monies they received for this they could have at least make sure all these girls had a souvenier tiara!!! Never Never Again will I fall for something like this and At my daughters expense...Never Never!!! Then They hire pedophiles to take these girls pictures!!! Google it, its true! I overheard one of the little girls saying she thinks some of the winners worked for National Inc!!!! This experience was a nightmare!! If it sounds like a scam, smells like a scam and feels like a scam its a SCAM!!

Loretta Dion said...

I'm really sorry this happened to you. I hope that you can take some recourse, even its to file a complaint with the BBB.

T said...

I recently recieved an email from this company wanting me to judge one of their pageants that will be here in July. I own a small business that is just starting to really pick up. Being associated with a pageant like this is the last thing I want. I'm glad I found your page.

I was told in the email that I will NOT get paid to judge the competition, but will be able to advertise my business instead.
I think I'll pass.

Stacey said...

I am a parent in AZ who allowed my 12 year old daughter to participate in this program against my better judgement. They took a series of professional photographs of every girl the day of 'personal interview's' and we never saw them or were contacted. I keep wondering where are the pictures now? They have every girls home address and God knows what other questions they ask in the interview. I am very uncomfortable and upset that they went to all that trouble but then didn't even try to sell us the pics as expected. Run, like Lolly said. Run and protect your daughter. My daughter was unhappy with the whole affair, but many girls were exhausted and crying after a 12 or 14 hour 'pageant' day. Was this a ruse to bilk parents and acquire pictures of hundreds of young girls? Looks like it to me. Jerks for sure, if not creeps.

Malissa said...

Like T, I was solicited to be a judge but wanted to research the company before I committed. I found nothing but bad about the company and how the judges and girls are treated. I will definitely say "No' to their offer.

Jane Adams said...

Beauty Pageants are such a scam because my little sister had one last night and she didn't even make it to the top ten because she didn't have enough sponcership. The people with the high sponcerships got into the top ten. The people that got in the top ten, they didn't even do their modeling routine right! So that's why beauty pageants are a scam!!!

Theresa said...

This pageant in Fitchburg Mass was a scam big time the broken hearted girls were a sin to watch and the funn thing is There were some of the same pageant contestants as the one before so it was fixed on who was going to be chosen and my granddaughter over heard some girls stating that it was basically fixed and that they did good this time for monies on the pageant. If my granddaughter doesnt get her pictures as paid for thier will be a legal issue here considering I work for the state investigation services and a lawsuit and a half will arise from there so called well organized scam process. Change up your props you dont think people will notice,this one did!!! Nationals Inc was very unorganized and did not have miss photogentic pictures as they stated. Very concerned for the hearts of a delicate age crushing young girls hearts ! How can you sleep at night your day will be judged and god will know who you are.

soccerstar_360 said...

I was a contestant in a Miss Teen (insert town here) pageant. I actually won 2nd place, and I do not work for Nationals. They gave me a trophy at the end, and the winner (a good friend of mine) received a tiara, a sash, and a bigger trophy. Both of us were "judges choice" winners, and got a free modeling shoot at a studio with a great reputation near the pageant. We did have to collect $495 dollars from businesses, though, and luckily I did not pay anything out-of-pocket. The lady at the information session was the blonde "Miss Colorado", whom I spoke to personally, and she completely fooled me. As the valedictorian of my class, I feel quite dumb. I was also invited to go to the Cities of America pageant in Orlando next year. My mother does not know that this was a scam, as I now do. I will never be so stupid again.

rejoice said...

To re-cap, their $495 training consisted of 1) reading along and told how to sit, speak, and shake hands 2) do a one half turn, 3) interview with "every day joe's" for five minutes, 4) and 5 minutes on stage to wait your turn to walk from X to X. 2 hours were spent pushing a photo package, another 30 minutes reiterating the importance of a portfolio for a Model, and collectively 20 minutes reminding the parents to "get your $20 tickets prior to the show because it may be sold out at the show." Fat chance...
I called Raleigh Pageants at 1800 565-9015 to strongly request a refund as well as to find out how the rest of the procedure to Nationals go. This was on November 8, 2010 in the afternoon. Amy Miller claimed that she could not give a refund because it is stated in the packet that all monies are non-refundable and non-transferable. True enough. I explained to her that the packet also ensured the contestants to receive training for the pageant that they never received. I asked her, "surely, you do not equate showing 157 girls how to do a one half turn, talk for five minutes to an every day joe, and be on stage for 5 minutes total for the rehearsal 'training,' do you?" She did not respond.
If anyone reading this was at the Raleigh Pageant and feel anywhere near as sickened as I am at the turn of events, please call the Raleigh Pageant number below and professionally, yet strongly request your refund. If they do not, please DO take action and lodge a complaint. There is strength in numbers.
There are many legitimate pageants...it's the scams that make the good ones look bad.

Sincerely Frustrated,

Donna

rejoice said...

By the way, you can make your comments to Nicole Rochelle on Facebook as well. She's easy to find...she'd the one wearing a tiara while wearing a pageant formal evening gown.

To request your refund for the Raleigh Pageant 2010, 1 800 565 9015. She says you would need to send a postal mail to 1951 Shenango Valley Freeway Suite 2 South, Hermitage, PA 16148.

If you feel you've been duped at the Nationals, lodge your complaint at 525-K E. Market Street, PDM 290, Leesburg, VA 20176. Their ph: 800 801 8478.

Complaining w/out action is not helpful. Please consider helping me shut these people down and save others the grief we've learned the hard way.

You can contact me at RejoiceStudio@aol.com if you'd like.

Donna

sungheex3 said...

did any of the winners actually get the $20,000 that they promised in the beginning??

sungheex3 said...

did any of the winners actually get the $20,000 that they promised in the beginning??

Bagira said...

I participated in the Pre-Teen NY pageant, and yeah i realized the Ana thing was both people, and she claimed she won and everything. well anyways, i won and i got a scholarship to john robert powers in ny, and i didn't have to pay ANYTHING. then i got a free trip to orlando but my mom did have to pay. at orlando, i also won. i just came back from the cruise they promised me and it was amazing. it was free for my mom and i. and i received my 10,000 just like they promised.
so no, it's not a scam. and every pageant requires money, or sponsor fees, how else do u expect them to get the prizes, stages, and make a profit?

Bagira said...

also,
this is what i payed for:

sponsor fee
photogenic fee ( optional )
photo shoot & pictures from pageant ( optional )

then in orlando:
nothing.

cruise:
nothing, just my expenses for things i wanted to buy

Unknown said...

We just received an invitation for my 12 year old to attend "2012 Teen" pageant. "Patty Ann," no last name provided, says she was given my child's name as possible candidate. Name? I know that it was a local university that sold it after we took some math classes there. Sadly, we now receive more crap like this, most recently, "Your child has been recommended to be a teen ambassador overseas." My sister believed this (she lives on the west coast so this is done everywhere) and her child is now going for a 3 week vacation overseas for about $4-5k. If it's too good to be true or hard to believe, it's because IT IS. Save your money. Few girls make it in modeling and brains last MUCH longer than looks.

Sheryl Helt said...

I'm so grateful for this blog. My 12 year old daughter also received the letter and wanted to go to the information session. Reluctantly, I took her and didn't like it from the very beginning. A woman told the same story as listed here, so after 2 years, they haven't even changed their story: She works with kids with HIV in Washington D.C. during the week.
She went to her "interview" without me and thought she did well. Then, guess what, she was 'accepted'. Shocking.She's so excited but we're not going any further with this. After a full week, I'm still trying to tell her it is all fake. I just feel bad for all the other parents who aren't resourceful enough to do the research to find out that it is actually a big scam. I'm running away as fast as I can, and taking my innocent little girl with me. I'm embarrassed that we even went to the info session.

Loretta Dion said...

Don't be embarrassed. You were smart enough to get out of it. That's more than a most.